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What issues came up while entering data from Little and Maun 1996?

by chaudhary last modified Oct 05, 2010 06:22 PM
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Little and Maun 1996

Posted by chaudhary at September 19. 2010
What issues came up at your institution while entering data from Little and Maun 1996?

 

Re: What issues came up while entering data from Little and Maun 1996?

Posted by chaudhary at September 28. 2010
Mitch Greer (OSU) asked the following question:
 

The other students at OSU, Dr. Wilson, and I were talking about some of the questions/uncertainties we had with entering the Little and Maun paper. We were able to work out most issues but we all had questions concerning step 5a (treatment vs. levels). We were unsure on how the treatments / levels would break down? What officially constitutes a treatment vs. a level? We entered the data in a few different ways and we think we found a setup that is correct. Then we looked at how the other groups entered their data and we realized that there was a great deal of variability in the results format between groups. We were wondering if we could spend some time going over the paper with you to see what you would consider the right answer to be. Maybe it would be beneficial for the entire NCEAS group to work through it together (reduce data entry variability) , but it may be something we have to do in a small group instead (based on time availability). We also had a specific question about the Little and Maun paper, do we include the buried and nematode treatments to use all the data in the paper or do we only include the treatments that look at +myc or nonmyc (to compare these 2 specific treatments)?

 

From Bala-

We discussed this at NAU a fair amount and decided to enter it at a 3 factor, fully crossed experiment.  Here was our setup:

Mycorrhizal treatment: 2 levels (control, inoculated)

Nematodes/pathogens: 2 levels (nematodes, no nematodes)

Other: 2 levels (buried, not buried)

 

Entering this paper brought up some good points:

1) Although it's necessary to put "control" and "inoculated" for the mycorrhizal treatments if there are only two levels, more specific titles for the levels of other factors are helpful later on, like "nematodes" or "no nematodes"

2) Nematodes/pathogens are something that we (the instructors) initially said we were interested in so we included the data for that factor. We are not specifically interested in sand burial, but it can be included as either "other" or "disturbance" to get all the data out of the paper.  If you didn't include the sand buried treatments you would have to make sure you entered only the 4 levels from non buried treatments (i.e. inoculated + no nematodes, control + no nematodes, inoculated + nematodes, control + nematodes).

3) Did your class enter the data on foliar growth rate into the MycoDB category of relative growth rate (RGR).  We debated this.

 

This is what we came up with at NAU. Please chime in if you interpreted the paper differently.  Thanks!

Bala

 

Re: What issues came up while entering data from Little and Maun 1996?

Posted by mjgreer at September 29. 2010

Bala,

I ran the paper entery process the way you suggested and it worked out. Our confusion came from treating the first box on 5a differently than the rest when really the  first (big) box on 5a is no different than the other smaller boxes except that we are more interested in the +myz vs. -myz. Is this correct? We debated the foliar growth rate data as well and did elect to enter it as relative growth rate. Does this seem correct? 

Re: What issues came up while entering data from Little and Maun 1996?

Posted by chaudhary at October 04. 2010

Hi Mitch! I'm not really sure what you mean by page 5a or by the big/smaller boxes.  What specific pages and fields are you referring to? 

Bala

Re: What issues came up while entering data from Little and Maun 1996?

Posted by mjgreer at October 05. 2010

Sorry, for the vague terminology. On page 5a we were assuming that the box for mycorrhizal treatments was different than the boxes below it (P soil, N soil, nematodes/parasites etc.), when really all of the boxes are equal treatments. Not sure if that helps clarify things or not. Your answer from before helped us figure it out though so we are doing good here at OSU, Thanks for your help.

 

 

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